Interview with Mileidys Nieves
A life shaped by cacao, engineering, and chocolate
Interview with Mileidys Nieves
A life shaped by cacao, engineering, and chocolate
Mileidys Nieves
A life shaped by cacao, engineering, and chocolate
Mileidys Yohana Nieves Mora is an Industrial Process Engineer and holds a Master’s degree in Food Development and Innovation, with more than a decade of specialized experience in cacao and chocolate. Her professional career combines technical consulting, research and development, process optimization, quality management, and food innovation.
She is the founder and director of Versado en Chocolate, a platform dedicated to consulting, training, and knowledge transfer across the cacao value chain. She has developed projects in Venezuela, Colombia, Spain, and Panama, taking on technical, managerial, and production responsibilities. She also holds several specialized certifications in food innovation, risk control, food processing, and preservation. In addition, she serves on the Council of the World Network of Cacao Tourism, where she contributes to initiatives focused on training, certification, and quality.
Mileidys, behind Versado en Chocolate is an engineer, an entrepreneur, and, above all, a wealth of experience accumulated over many years. If you were to take us back to the moment when this story began, what happened that led cacao and chocolate to become your professional path?
My journey into cacao and chocolate did not begin with an entrepreneurial idea, but rather through engineering and industry. My background as an Industrial Process Engineer naturally led me to become interested in understanding how processes work, how quality is controlled, and how a raw material can be transformed into a product with specific characteristics.
Cacao entered my professional journey very early, while I was an undergraduate student, when I became involved in a community-based project. Little by little, I discovered that behind a chocolate bar lay a universe of variables, including raw materials, fermentation, drying, roasting, formulation, processing, equipment, quality control, sensory analysis, and product development.
In 2014, I had the opportunity to receive specialized training in chocolate and to begin working directly in the industry. From that point onward, cacao and chocolate ceased to be simply the sector in which I worked and became the field in which I wanted to build my career.
Over the years, I came to understand that my place was precisely at the intersection of engineering, food science, and the knowledge and expertise of cacao and chocolate. This is where I have been able to create the greatest value: by technically understanding a problem, identifying what is actually happening within a process, and transforming that knowledge into a practical, applicable solution.
When we look at your career, we see quality, research, product development, production, consulting, and your own entrepreneurial ventures. Yet résumés reveal very little about what happens behind the scenes. Which moments along that journey do you remember as genuine turning points in your professional life?
There have been several, and not all of them occurred when I changed positions or took on a new responsibility.
The first came when I joined the mass-market chocolate industry in Venezuela. I realized that having a theoretical understanding of cacao and chocolate science was not enough. I needed to understand the entire process and learn to make decisions based on measurable variables. I worked across production, quality, and research and development, and each of these areas transformed the way I approached both a product and the business behind it.
Another important turning point came when I took on the challenge of creating and leading R&D departments. This required me to stop thinking solely as a technical specialist and start thinking about the key elements of a project: What problem are we trying to solve? Who are we solving it for? What resources do we have? And how can we ensure that a solution is genuinely viable?
Later, working as a consultant and trainer once again broadened my perspective. I began supporting projects of different sizes, in different countries and across a wide range of industrial contexts. This confirmed something that I now consider fundamental: sometimes the problem is not a lack of knowledge, but rather the inability to translate that knowledge into concrete decisions and take swift, effective action.
These experiences shaped the professional profile I have today. I no longer look at cacao solely from the perspective of the raw material, nor at chocolate merely as a finished product. I always seek to understand the entire value chain and, above all, to identify where the real opportunity for improvement or innovation lies.
Entrepreneurship also means making mistakes, changing direction, and starting over with greater experience. In your professional journey, some projects evolved while others came to an end. What did those experiences teach you about yourself and about the way you build Versado en Chocolate today?
The projects that did not continue are just as important as those that did. Entrepreneurship taught me that closing, transforming, or reassessing a project does not necessarily mean failure. Sometimes, it means recognizing that circumstances have changed and that continuing to pursue the same model no longer makes sense.
I also learned to distinguish between a good idea and a good business. An idea may be technically interesting and yet lack a market, the necessary structure or resources, or a sufficiently robust business model to be sustainable.
Today, I make decisions more consciously. I assess what problem I am solving, who genuinely needs that solution, what capacity I have to execute it, and what needs to happen for it to grow without compromising quality.
Versado en Chocolate is also the result of that learning process. It began in 2019 as a digital platform and evolved as I gained a deeper understanding of the needs of the people and companies that came to us. That is how we came to establish a presence in at least 20 countries around the world. Today, we are bringing that experience into a physical space in Colombia, while remaining true to our original purpose: connecting technical knowledge with the real needs of the sector.
People who come to you usually have an idea, a product, or a business that needs to improve. When you first speak with an entrepreneur or business owner, what do you seek to understand before discussing processes, formulations, costs, quality, or potential solutions?
Before discussing any solution, I always need to understand the problem.
When someone comes to me with an idea, the first thing I want to know is what they are trying to achieve, what they are currently doing, what results they are obtaining, and where they believe their main difficulty or weakness lies. I also need to understand what is not necessarily mentioned at the outset: what raw materials they use, what equipment they have, their production capacity, who their customers are, who their collaborators and partners are, what their long-term vision is, and what financial or operational constraints they face.
For example, a formulation may work perfectly well in a laboratory and yet be unfeasible for a small business. Likewise, a technically sound process may not be appropriate for a particular production scale.
That is why I do not begin by asking simply, “What product do you want to make?” I seek to understand the business, the process, and the product as an integrated system. From there, I determine whether the underlying issue lies in the formulation, the process, the raw materials, the equipment, quality control, the people involved, or even in how the product itself has been defined.
That initial assessment is what makes it possible for a technical recommendation to be genuinely useful.
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A chocolate may taste delicious to us, but behind that experience are formulations, processes, controls, and countless technical decisions. How do you manage to explain all that complexity in an accessible way, so that an entrepreneur understands not only what needs to change, but also why it needs to change?
For me, explaining something from a technical perspective does not mean simplifying it to the point of losing its substance. It means finding a way for someone to understand it and then be able to apply that knowledge.
So, whenever I explain a process, I always create a diagram, chart, or visual representation that connects each decision with a visible outcome further down the line. If we are discussing a formulation, I am not interested simply in telling someone which ingredient to add, change, or remove. I want to explain what function it performs, how it affects the structure, flavor, stability, or cost, and what may happen if it is modified.
The same applies to processes. Someone may learn that they need to control a specific temperature, but if they do not understand what is happening within the chocolate when that temperature changes, it will be difficult for them to troubleshoot a deviation when one occurs.
My goal is that anyone who receives a technical recommendation does not have to depend on me indefinitely to repeat it. I want them to understand the rationale behind the decision and be able to apply that reasoning independently within their own process.
After several years of working digitally and supporting projects both within and beyond Colombia, Casa Versado is opening its doors in Bello. What does it mean to you personally to open a physical space where you can now teach, experiment, welcome people, and develop new ideas?
Casa Versado represents a natural evolution of what I have been building since 2019.
Versado en Chocolate began as a digital platform because I needed a way to address the needs of emerging chocolatiers in Venezuela, Colombia, and Spain who were eager to acquire knowledge and find answers to their questions about artisanal chocolate-making based on the Bean-to-Bar philosophy. In other words, it was about sharing knowledge and supporting projects without distance becoming a limitation. Over the years, I have worked with people and companies in different locations, trained professionals, developed products, and supported processes entirely remotely.
I had already experienced this with other businesses in Venezuela: cacao and chocolate also need spaces where people can experiment, test, make mistakes, and create.
Opening Casa Versado in Bello means bringing that digital experience into a physical space. It is a place for training, product development, raw-material evaluation, working with equipment, welcoming entrepreneurs, and creating opportunities for people involved in this value chain to connect and exchange ideas.
For me, it also carries a deeply personal meaning. After several years of working from different places and supporting international projects, I am now building a meeting point of my own in Colombia, a place where anyone can come and participate.
I do not see it simply as a store or a classroom. I want it to be a space where an idea can become a product, and where technical knowledge can meet the real-world needs of those who produce.
You have shared your knowledge with students, entrepreneurs, producers, and professionals with very different backgrounds and levels of experience. Is there a particular transformation—of a person or a business—that you remember especially, one that made you think, “This is exactly what I wanted to create Versado en Chocolate for”?
Definitely. In fact, almost all of them. When I see new businesses gaining recognition and becoming formally established, I feel that we have contributed, in some measure, to their success. Because, more than seeing a finished product, what gives me the greatest satisfaction is seeing how a person’s way of making decisions changes after working with me.
I have supported entrepreneurs who initially came to me looking for a recipe and eventually realized that they needed to take control of their entire process. I have worked with producers who initially spoke only about price and eventually began asking about sensory profiles, certificates of analysis, production volumes, and the markets they wanted to reach. I have also worked with companies that had new products in development that were already technically functional, but needed greater structure, follow-up, and evaluation to ensure successful market launches.
These changes are deeply meaningful to me because they show that knowledge has truly been transformed into a set of capabilities and skills that enables people to find solutions.
One of Versado’s purposes is to foster continuous improvement without creating dependency on technical knowledge. Instead, we aim to develop sound judgment and technical criteria so that people can make better decisions about their own products and businesses.
Your work gives you first-hand insight into the challenges faced by people who produce cacao or make chocolate. Beyond technology and equipment, what do you believe our entrepreneurs need to learn or strengthen in order to turn good products into truly sustainable businesses?
I believe one of the main challenges is moving from simply producing a good product to developing a system capable of sustaining it.
We have people with tremendous talent, excellent raw materials, and products with significant potential, but we still find weaknesses in fundamental areas such as standardization, process control, documentation, cost calculation, raw-material selection, and the definition of target markets.
We also need to learn how to measure. The perception that a product “tastes good” is important, but it is not enough to guarantee consistency or support growth.
A sustainable business needs to know what it is doing, why it is doing it, how much it costs, what results it expects to achieve, and how those results can be consistently replicated.
That is why I insist so much on connecting quality, processes, product, and market as a single system or mechanism. They do not function independently. Technology can dramatically improve a process, but without the judgment and expertise to use it properly, we will simply have more sophisticated equipment producing problems at a faster rate.
You speak about the circular economy and the comprehensive utilization of cacao, concepts that may seem highly technical to some people. How would you bring these ideas into the day-to-day reality of a small business, and what opportunities do you see in what we have traditionally considered waste?
The circular economy begins when we stop looking at a raw material solely in terms of what we have traditionally considered its primary product.
Cacao offers enormous potential for comprehensive utilization. We often say here that nothing is wasted; everything is transformed. Depending on the scale and context, there are opportunities involving the cacao shell, mucilage, husk, and other by-products generated throughout processing. But it is not simply a matter of using a waste material to make something else. We need to ask whether that use is technically feasible, safe and suitable for its intended purpose, economically viable, and whether there is a market willing to pay for it.
For a small business, this can begin in a very simple way. For example, identify which materials are currently being discarded, quantify how much is being generated, characterize them, and analyze what potential uses they might have, either within or outside the existing process.
Even something as basic as reducing losses, improving raw-material yields, or properly reusing a by-product is already part of a resource-utilization strategy.
There is an idea I often share when I connect producers with chocolatiers. I prefer to collect the new, perfectly intact jute sacks—made from jute, fique, or sisal—in which fermented and dried cacao beans are delivered, and return them to the producer for reuse. This way, we avoid generating unnecessary waste in production or taking up additional storage space, while contributing to a common goal.
Over the years, you have undoubtedly encountered people, companies, and institutions with whom working together has multiplied the possibilities of a project. From your experience, what makes a collaboration move beyond being simply commercial and become a genuine partnership?
A collaboration may begin with a commercial need, but a true partnership emerges when there is a shared vision and each party brings something the other needs in order to move forward.
For me, three elements are essential: clarity of objectives, trust, and the capacity to execute.
Not every partnership has to be large. Sometimes one company has the infrastructure, another has the technical expertise, and another has access to a niche market—or simply the right connections. When these capabilities complement one another and there is a clear, specific objective, a genuine and meaningful project can emerge in which each party develops and contributes its own strengths.
I also believe that a true partnership must generate shared value for everyone involved and, when we are talking about cacao and chocolate, ideally for the broader value chain behind the product as well.
I am particularly interested in working with people and organizations that are not simply looking to carry out a one-off activity, but rather to develop capabilities, products, or projects that can be sustained and continue to grow over time.
Let us imagine that among those reading this conversation there is a cacao producer, a company, a university, or someone with a promising idea related to cacao and chocolate. What would you like to tell them about Versado and about what you might be able to build together?
To anyone with an idea related to cacao and chocolate, I would say that they do not need to have everything figured out before they come to us.
They can come with cacao they want to characterize, a product that is not performing as expected, a formulation that needs to be developed, a process they want to standardize, equipment they are not sure how to use properly, or simply an idea that still needs to be turned into a concrete project.
Versado en Chocolate brings together a hybrid model of technical training, consulting, and solution development, specifically designed to work at that point where an idea needs a clear pathway and vision in order to move forward. Now, with Casa Versado, we also have a physical space where we can experiment, train, develop, and connect with others.
I am interested in building projects with producers, entrepreneurs, companies, universities, and institutions that want to do more than simply produce chocolate. People who want to develop products with identity, create innovative solutions, build more robust processes, and develop businesses with the potential to grow.
Because, ultimately, I believe the true value of cacao lies not only in transforming it into chocolate, but in everything we can build around it. And that, in many ways, is what my entire professional life has been about.
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